Appeal

Jul. 15th, 2012 09:23 pm
[identity profile] pierhias.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] hih_appeals

Name: Iris
Age: 25
House you were sorted into: Ravenclaw
Link to original application: http://platform-934.livejournal.com/765547.html
Are there any questions you would like to elaborate on?

Considering I wrote that original app more than three years ago, I want to change/edit surprisingly few answers.

If you had the opportunity to live forever, but your family and friends did not, what would you choose? And if you did choose to live forever, what would you do with eternity?
I don't think I'd still want to live forever. Back in '09 I'd never lost anyone close to me, but in the past years I've had to come to terms with that, as well as watch my grandparents' health deteriorate considerably. At this point I don't think I could stand watching this happen to people I care about again and again.
I'm still curious to see what the future holds, and I'd still love to have all the time in the world to do different things I don't take the time for now. But I don't any longer believe that it would be worth the cost to me.

What would you see if you looked into the Mirror of Erised?
I sort of want to change it, and at the same time not. On the one hand I think that deep down this might always remain one of my most intense desires, the need to see my family whole and around me. But on the other hand I've really come to terms with the situation in the last few years and it's not actively bothering me anymore. My parents are so much happier now than I ever knew them together, and that's more important than who is living where.
If I looked into the Mirror right now, I might see myself in a new apartment, closer to my workplace, surrounded by my parents with their respective partners, and my brother and his girlfriend, holding a baby nephew or niece of mine. It would symbolize having reached a point where my life is good enough that I wouldn't feel the need to change any one given aspect of it.

Do you believe that moral actions should be judged by the intentions behind them, or by the consequences they create?
I believe that, legally, moral actions need to be judged by consequences mostly, though taking intentions into account. Morally, on the other hand, personally I judge people's intentions a lot more.


Pick one or two canon qualities from each of the four houses that you possess and explain why you picked them:
Gryffindor I have a pretty solid set of principles and what I consider to be right or wrong, and I don't like compromise when it comes to that. I try to stand by what I believe in, and stand up for it too, if needed.
I have a certain need to prove myself. Give me a challenge and I'll try my best to get there. I don't like backing down or being proven wrong, I can be pretty stubborn at times, and it's all because I want to prove myself.
Hufflepuff I am hard-working. Don't get me wrong, I like doing nothing all, I am lazy, and I procrastinate like the best of them. But if I achieve something, I want to know that I put the effort in and deserved it. Like Cedric when he offered a quidditch rematch after Harry fell off his broom. He wanted to win because he was better, because of his work, not because of Harry's bad luck, and I'd be the same. Hand me something on a silver platter and I won't appreciate it or be able to enjoy it. Make me work for it, and feel like I earned it and I'll be happier.
I also put a lot of stock in fairness. Few things get me riled up as easily as perceived unfairness towards myself or others. And I'd like to believe I can be impartial and judge a situation fairly without my own interests getting in the way. I'd rather lose in a fair manner than win by cheating or taking advantage of anyone.
Ravenclaw I strive on logic and I am analytical. I got a university degree in math, I just started work as an analyst, I love all kinds of logic puzzles, games, etc., and often I can see connections and mechanisms easily. I'm also naturally inquisitive. I want to know how things work and why, I want to learn and understand. I'm the kind of person who's so immersed in trying to figure something out that they forget to eat.
Slytherin I am ambitious as all hell. If there is a top spot, I want it, if a game needs a winner I want to be the one winning it. I don't really do things for fun, be it playing cards or doing sports or anything, I want to do it as best as I can, and I sure don't want to lose. I try to be a graceful loser if it does happen, but it's eating me up inside.
In social situations I am observant, and I probably know more about people than they realize. It's not that I'm particularly interested in knowing these things or that I am nosy, I just listen when people talk to me. Unlike a good Slytherin I don't use that knowledge to my advantage usually, but I guess I could if I wanted to.

Now pick up to two canon qualities from each of the four houses that you do NOT possess and explain your choices:
Gryffindor: I don't really see myself as passionate. Of course I am passionate about a few things, everyone is, but passion is not a word I'd use to describe myself in most circumstances. It takes a lot to get me riled up, and I regard myself as fairly laid-back in most things. I'm not one to change the world, and I lack the courage to allow myself to care about many things. People who care get hurt, and I'd rather not.
I'm also not brave. I am scared of many things, and if I can, I avoid them rather than facing them. Like said above, I'm scared to get emotionally invested in many ways. I'd rather not care than care and get hurt, which is not a very daring way to go about life.
Hufflepuff I'm not that fussed about loyalty. Not that I am actively disloyal, I am not. But if I have to choose between my principles and what I think is right, and loyalty to someone going against those things, there are extremely few people I would choose over what I believe in. I'm a firm believer that friends and partners in life come and go, and I'd rather be true to myself than to others.
Ravenclaw I am absolutely not the dreamy, creative, Luna-esque kind of Claw. I am also not idealistic or romantic. Give me cold, hard facts, logic and reasoning over emotions and day-dreaming any day. My reaction to Luna would probably be very similar to Hermione's, if hopefully more accepting.
Slytherin I hate networking. Like I seriously abhor the idea of getting places because I happen to know someone. I could easily have gotten a job without ever interviewing or even showing anyone my resume by just dropping my father's name at an opportune time and with the right people. And I might have done it if I had exhausted all other options. But I would have exhausted ALL other options first. I'd never have been happy with a job I felt I hadn't earned. I am really bad at "you rub my back and I'll rub yours."
Besides that I don't use any means to achieve my ends. There's a clearly defined line of what I am willing to do or not, and I think I draw that line more rigorously than many others would. Like I said above, I'd rather lose or not achieve my goals than use means I don't approve of to get there.

Explain why you feel misplaced in your current house. Please be sure to explain how much of your answer is based on your canon understanding of the house (versus the way the house happens to be in HiH): It's not so much that I feel entirely misplaced in Ravenclaw as it is that nagging doubt if it's really the best fit. Do I believe in knowledge for knowledge's sake? Yes. Do I like to feel like I spend my time doing something more "useful" than learning? Yes. I think if my time at school and university had gone differently, I might have turned out to be completely Ravenclaw inside and out. But as it is, both school and uni were miserable places for me to be, for different reasons, and it's put me off learning quite a bit. I hold a deep seated grudge against formal education, and it's hard for me to separate "learning" from my educational experiences.
I am analytical, and I enjoy brain games, for lack of a better word. I teach math for fun, and I like writing logic puzzles as much as solving them. But my main motivation in life is not learning, and I feel more fulfilled doing productive things that benefit someone somehow (even if that someone is just my paycheck at the end of the month, ahem) than "just" learning for its own sake.

Is there a particular house you believe you would feel more at home in? If yes, please explain: Ah, the house I identify the most with changes fairly regularly. I used to think of myself as a Ravenclaw primarily, then as a Hufflepuff, then back to Claw, and these days I can't help but notice the Gryffindor is cropping up more and more. I think at the core I may be a Hufflepuff, but I'm never quite sure.

Date: 2012-07-16 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com
Hello Iris! Your appeal has been dropped and the judges will now begin interrogating you. If you have any questions, concerns, or if you need to pause your appeal, please let me know as soon as possible. Thank you and good luck!

- Sara, Term XXIII Appeals Mod

Date: 2012-07-16 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com
What would you say is the single most important problem facing the world today?

What is the one single thing you are most passionate about in your life? (really, only one)

Pick a quote/lyric that you feel is one of the mottos of your life, and explain why you feel that way.

- Sara

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From: [identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com - Date: 2012-07-18 11:34 pm (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2012-07-16 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovestyle.livejournal.com
Hi Iris. :D I've got 3 questions for you!

Do you believe morality to be relative, or do you hold most people accountable to the same set of principles in your mind?

Would you say in general that you are more excited to learn cold hard facts, or openly ponder questions that have yet to be answered?

What element do you relate best to, and why?

Date: 2012-07-16 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmailliw.livejournal.com
Hey Iris! I'll just give you some of my old favorites here:

1) "Knowledge is more of a means to an end than an end in and of itself." Agree or disagree, and why?
2) What is your greatest ambition and how do you plan on achieving it?
3) Which of the following four dystopias do you think would be the worst to live in, and why?
A) A dystopia like Harrison Bergeron in which everyone is given handicaps until they are all at exactly the same ability - and if your ability ever improves, you are merely given a stronger handicap to bring you back down.
B) A dystopia like 1984 in which, if you have your own thoughts that are different from those of the establishment, you are guilty of "crimethink" which is considered to be worse than murder.
C) A dystopia like The Trial/Vor dem Gesetz in which almost no one has any chance of justice or a fair trial; in other words, you need to be liked by the right people in order to have a shot in a court of law.
D) A dystopia controlled by someone like Dolores Umbridge in which you are not allowed to speak your mind; if you are caught saying things that the leader disagrees with, you are severely physically punished.
4) Forest or river? (and, of course, why? ;-))

Date: 2012-07-16 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanalith.livejournal.com
Hi, Iris! Here are some questions from me:

1.) You've discovered a spell that makes everyone around you tell the absolute truth for 24 hours, but if you cast it, you would also be under its effects. Explain why you would or would not cast the spell.

2.) You're given the chance to teach one and ONLY one thing to all the children of the world. This can literally be anything - you could explain a concept, give the answer to a specific problem, have them read a certain book - anything! What would you choose and why?

3.) You mentioned that your experiences in formal education put you off learning. What would you change about the school/university process that might make them more conducive to learning for learning's sake? Or do you think there isn't anything that could be done?

Date: 2012-07-16 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
Hi Iris! Just have a few questions for you:

1. (Sorry, this question is long. I don't know if you're familiar with the book or not so I figured background information might help. :P)

In the dystopian world of Divergent, society is divided into five factions, each of which is dedicated to eradicating an evil trait in themselves that they believe caused the downfall of the world, and exemplifying a trait that they think is paramount, usually to an extreme. When faction members turn sixteen, they are asked to select a faction. Usually it is the one they have the most aptitude for.

The factions are as follows: Abnegation (selflessness; they live to serve others and are the leaders of their society), Erudite (intelligence; they live for the pursuit of knowledge and often work to find efficiencies in running society), Amity (peacefulness; they value peace and harmony above all else and are the caretakers/counselors/artists of the society), Candor (honesty; they never lie and they see the world as black and white), and Dauntless (bravery; they value fearlessness and protect the city from threats).

First, rank the factions in order of which you feel most of an aptitude towards, and why you feel that way. Secondly, had you been given this decision, which faction would you choose and why?

2. Can you tell us about the times that you have felt most Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin?

3. You mentioned noticing that your Gryffindor has been cropping up more and more. Can you tell us more about these moments?


Thank you!

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From: [identity profile] mmailliw.livejournal.com - Date: 2012-07-18 05:06 pm (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2012-07-16 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotrangel17.livejournal.com
Hi Iris, here a few questions from me.

1. You've inherited a large sum of money but you must give half of it to a charity; what charity do you pick and why?

2. What is one thing people don't like about you? Would you change it if you could? Why or Why not?

3. What situation(s) really make you lose your cool?

4. Finally, choose a few (at least two please) of these Ravenclaw qualities and explain why they don't describe you. Analytical, intelligent, logical yet impractical, curious, creative, inquisitive, witty, wise, cynical, fond of intellectual discussions, independent, introspective, observes more often than participates, self entertaining, fond of learning for the sake of learning.

Thanks!

Date: 2012-07-17 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tunnels-of-loce.livejournal.com
Hello Iris! Here are a few questions for you to answer when you can. :)

1. If you could choose one person from each house to be your best friend, who would you choose and why? (They do not have to be from the same generation.)

2. How do you usually handle adversity? What do you do when something doesn't go your way?

3. What is one trait or quality you admire the most in others?

Thank you, and good luck with your appeal!

Date: 2012-07-17 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emptyhanded09.livejournal.com
1. Please give me your opinion on how your Jung/Myers Brigg personality type fits into the different Hogwarts houses. If you don't know your Jung personality type, you can take a version of the personality test here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp).

2. If someone were to hand you one million dollars (or whatever your currency might be), what is the very first thing you would do with the money?

3. You mention wanting the top spot/winner winner all the time. If you were Cedric Diggory in the maze with Harry (and didn't know the cup was a portkey to Voldie, of course), how would you have acted?

Date: 2012-07-17 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anbyrobanby.livejournal.com
Hey Iris!


- How do you believe you respond in a crisis?

- You mention that legally, consequences should be considered above intentions, but morally intentions should be considered above consequences. Please give a HP canon example of someone who made an intention/consequence call you believe was incorrect in that context, why you disagree, and what you would have done differently in their position.

- You get the power to telepathically transmit one message into the minds of every witch or wizard on Earth, simultaneously. They will all recieve the message at the same time without distinction (eg, if you transmit in 1992, everyone in Chamber-of-Secrets-era Hogwarts would hear it, but, say, Lily & James Potter wouldn't, as they're long dead). The message can be about anything, but it's limited to only be one sentence long. Only witches & wizards pick this up this transmission. What is it, and at what date/period/era/etc would you send it?

- Name two Muggles whom you respect and admire: one living, one dead. They can be anyone, famous, personal, or otherwise. Explain briefly why you picked these two, and Sort them.


Apologies for the potential tl;drness of this ;)
Edited Date: 2012-07-17 04:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-17 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xfortytwo.livejournal.com
Hey Iris!
I have some questions for you:

1. Pick one from each of the following pairs: (It would be very helpful if you gave some reasoning too)
individual vs collective:
realism vs idealism:
creativity vs knowledge:
passion vs reason:

2. If you could achieve only one goal in your life, what would it be? Would you want to reach this goal at any cost?

3. Imagine that someone has access to information about the world that is top secret and hidden away for fear of the consequences it would have if the world knew. The information is coveted by many, but knowing it can potentially be dangerous. This someone offers access to this information to you, would you want it or not?

I think that's all for now!
Thanks :)

Date: 2012-07-18 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madlybewildered.livejournal.com
1. Which HP character do you find most reprehensible?

2. How do you feel about deception? Is it ever justifiable? If so, when? Is there anyone you'd never lie to?

3. You can give five year old mini Iris one piece of advice. What is it?

Date: 2012-07-25 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com
Hello Iris,

I am happy to let you know that your appeal was successful and you have been re-sorted into Hufflepuff.

The judges generally agreed that you seemed to be a Ravenpuff (with some side doses of Slytherin and Gryffindor), and could easily see you fitting into either house. However, after all of us had a hard time deciding, the majority chose to send you to Hufflepuff. Here is some of what the judges had to say:

-I think that she's mostly Ravenpuff at heart with definite elements of Gryffindor. She's not a Luna-esque Claw by any stretch of it, but I don't think all Claws are and I think the Hufflepuff in her makes her more grounded and more pragmatic at heart. The Gryffindor in her gives her a prominent moral compass and a desire to follow what's right, but I also think that on the whole, Iris puts more value on things like fairness, hard work, intelligence and logic and inquisitiveness.

-I’m going to have to go with Ravenclaw though in the end. I just don’t see Hufflepuff traits at the very core of her personality. She certainly has Puff responses and Puff opinions, but I really see them backed up by a very logical explanation and a logical reasoning. We need people to be empathetic because when people aren’t empathetic, we all hurt each other and self destruct (sorry for the paraphrasing). The biggest problem in the world is that we’re wrapped up in our own problems, and we don’t see the rest of the problems in the world so we screw ourselves and each other over. My rewording is lacking, but despite that, I really do think that her thought processes for why she has Hufflepuff reactions are very logically thought out and are very wide reaching in scale, moving into an almost theoretical level.

-She's incredibly grounded, practical, and hard-working. She genuinely enjoys helping others achieve their full potential, which reminds me a lot of Helga ensuring that everyone has an opportunity to learn. If she'd been around at the founding of Hogwarts, I think that's the kind of role she'd take on. She's tolerant and accepting even though she has a strong set of personal values. One of her main goals is to be just and fair. The importance she places on honesty is very Hufflepuff, as is her dystopia answer, what she'd want all children to know, and what she thinks the biggest problem in the world is. I think Hufflepuff motives underlie the majority of her choices and they're what she would compromise last. The emphasis on fairness and tolerance throughout her entire appeal is overwhelming.

-The answers that struck me as very Hufflepuff were those of the one thing I want to achieve in life is happiness. , she answered quite a few questions how she shuts herself off in a crisis and doesn't like to respond to those, sharing her money with her family, and finally the fact that she seems to relate to Cedric in many situations. The answers that shouted Ravenclaw to me were those about not forgiving about deception, not using knowledge for bad situations, doing away with grades and letting people really have the chance to learn without labels.

-When asked about morality, iris is quick not to impose her view of morality on others, instead choosing the route marked by fairness and take the neutral route. When faced with the possibility that she would have to see her family and friends slowly fall away if she picked to live forever, Iris balked and instead chose to live a natural life span. Fairness seems to be a common theme with Iris, coming up again in her decision regarding which type of society she could endure the least (the society where fairness was abandoned was her least desired society). Kindness is also a repeated theme, from her mention of the famous Plato quote to her choice to become Abnegation (the faction which exists to serve others and bring joy to others) in the Divergent universe.


You can leave the Ravenclaw common room and will be accepted into the Hufflefpuff common room. Except not really, because this is just an example appeal and you're not allowed to be a Hufflepuff. Good luck in your new house, I hope you will enjoy it!

- Sara, Term XXIII Appeals Mod

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