ext_110011 ([identity profile] pierhias.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hih_appeals2012-07-15 09:23 pm

Appeal


Name: Iris
Age: 25
House you were sorted into: Ravenclaw
Link to original application: http://platform-934.livejournal.com/765547.html
Are there any questions you would like to elaborate on?

Considering I wrote that original app more than three years ago, I want to change/edit surprisingly few answers.

If you had the opportunity to live forever, but your family and friends did not, what would you choose? And if you did choose to live forever, what would you do with eternity?
I don't think I'd still want to live forever. Back in '09 I'd never lost anyone close to me, but in the past years I've had to come to terms with that, as well as watch my grandparents' health deteriorate considerably. At this point I don't think I could stand watching this happen to people I care about again and again.
I'm still curious to see what the future holds, and I'd still love to have all the time in the world to do different things I don't take the time for now. But I don't any longer believe that it would be worth the cost to me.

What would you see if you looked into the Mirror of Erised?
I sort of want to change it, and at the same time not. On the one hand I think that deep down this might always remain one of my most intense desires, the need to see my family whole and around me. But on the other hand I've really come to terms with the situation in the last few years and it's not actively bothering me anymore. My parents are so much happier now than I ever knew them together, and that's more important than who is living where.
If I looked into the Mirror right now, I might see myself in a new apartment, closer to my workplace, surrounded by my parents with their respective partners, and my brother and his girlfriend, holding a baby nephew or niece of mine. It would symbolize having reached a point where my life is good enough that I wouldn't feel the need to change any one given aspect of it.

Do you believe that moral actions should be judged by the intentions behind them, or by the consequences they create?
I believe that, legally, moral actions need to be judged by consequences mostly, though taking intentions into account. Morally, on the other hand, personally I judge people's intentions a lot more.


Pick one or two canon qualities from each of the four houses that you possess and explain why you picked them:
Gryffindor I have a pretty solid set of principles and what I consider to be right or wrong, and I don't like compromise when it comes to that. I try to stand by what I believe in, and stand up for it too, if needed.
I have a certain need to prove myself. Give me a challenge and I'll try my best to get there. I don't like backing down or being proven wrong, I can be pretty stubborn at times, and it's all because I want to prove myself.
Hufflepuff I am hard-working. Don't get me wrong, I like doing nothing all, I am lazy, and I procrastinate like the best of them. But if I achieve something, I want to know that I put the effort in and deserved it. Like Cedric when he offered a quidditch rematch after Harry fell off his broom. He wanted to win because he was better, because of his work, not because of Harry's bad luck, and I'd be the same. Hand me something on a silver platter and I won't appreciate it or be able to enjoy it. Make me work for it, and feel like I earned it and I'll be happier.
I also put a lot of stock in fairness. Few things get me riled up as easily as perceived unfairness towards myself or others. And I'd like to believe I can be impartial and judge a situation fairly without my own interests getting in the way. I'd rather lose in a fair manner than win by cheating or taking advantage of anyone.
Ravenclaw I strive on logic and I am analytical. I got a university degree in math, I just started work as an analyst, I love all kinds of logic puzzles, games, etc., and often I can see connections and mechanisms easily. I'm also naturally inquisitive. I want to know how things work and why, I want to learn and understand. I'm the kind of person who's so immersed in trying to figure something out that they forget to eat.
Slytherin I am ambitious as all hell. If there is a top spot, I want it, if a game needs a winner I want to be the one winning it. I don't really do things for fun, be it playing cards or doing sports or anything, I want to do it as best as I can, and I sure don't want to lose. I try to be a graceful loser if it does happen, but it's eating me up inside.
In social situations I am observant, and I probably know more about people than they realize. It's not that I'm particularly interested in knowing these things or that I am nosy, I just listen when people talk to me. Unlike a good Slytherin I don't use that knowledge to my advantage usually, but I guess I could if I wanted to.

Now pick up to two canon qualities from each of the four houses that you do NOT possess and explain your choices:
Gryffindor: I don't really see myself as passionate. Of course I am passionate about a few things, everyone is, but passion is not a word I'd use to describe myself in most circumstances. It takes a lot to get me riled up, and I regard myself as fairly laid-back in most things. I'm not one to change the world, and I lack the courage to allow myself to care about many things. People who care get hurt, and I'd rather not.
I'm also not brave. I am scared of many things, and if I can, I avoid them rather than facing them. Like said above, I'm scared to get emotionally invested in many ways. I'd rather not care than care and get hurt, which is not a very daring way to go about life.
Hufflepuff I'm not that fussed about loyalty. Not that I am actively disloyal, I am not. But if I have to choose between my principles and what I think is right, and loyalty to someone going against those things, there are extremely few people I would choose over what I believe in. I'm a firm believer that friends and partners in life come and go, and I'd rather be true to myself than to others.
Ravenclaw I am absolutely not the dreamy, creative, Luna-esque kind of Claw. I am also not idealistic or romantic. Give me cold, hard facts, logic and reasoning over emotions and day-dreaming any day. My reaction to Luna would probably be very similar to Hermione's, if hopefully more accepting.
Slytherin I hate networking. Like I seriously abhor the idea of getting places because I happen to know someone. I could easily have gotten a job without ever interviewing or even showing anyone my resume by just dropping my father's name at an opportune time and with the right people. And I might have done it if I had exhausted all other options. But I would have exhausted ALL other options first. I'd never have been happy with a job I felt I hadn't earned. I am really bad at "you rub my back and I'll rub yours."
Besides that I don't use any means to achieve my ends. There's a clearly defined line of what I am willing to do or not, and I think I draw that line more rigorously than many others would. Like I said above, I'd rather lose or not achieve my goals than use means I don't approve of to get there.

Explain why you feel misplaced in your current house. Please be sure to explain how much of your answer is based on your canon understanding of the house (versus the way the house happens to be in HiH): It's not so much that I feel entirely misplaced in Ravenclaw as it is that nagging doubt if it's really the best fit. Do I believe in knowledge for knowledge's sake? Yes. Do I like to feel like I spend my time doing something more "useful" than learning? Yes. I think if my time at school and university had gone differently, I might have turned out to be completely Ravenclaw inside and out. But as it is, both school and uni were miserable places for me to be, for different reasons, and it's put me off learning quite a bit. I hold a deep seated grudge against formal education, and it's hard for me to separate "learning" from my educational experiences.
I am analytical, and I enjoy brain games, for lack of a better word. I teach math for fun, and I like writing logic puzzles as much as solving them. But my main motivation in life is not learning, and I feel more fulfilled doing productive things that benefit someone somehow (even if that someone is just my paycheck at the end of the month, ahem) than "just" learning for its own sake.

Is there a particular house you believe you would feel more at home in? If yes, please explain: Ah, the house I identify the most with changes fairly regularly. I used to think of myself as a Ravenclaw primarily, then as a Hufflepuff, then back to Claw, and these days I can't help but notice the Gryffindor is cropping up more and more. I think at the core I may be a Hufflepuff, but I'm never quite sure.

[identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com 2012-07-18 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
One more question in addition to the most important problem question from above :P

Sort one Leverage character into each house and explain your reasons for sorting them there.

:)

[identity profile] ariake.livejournal.com 2012-07-25 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello Iris,

I am happy to let you know that your appeal was successful and you have been re-sorted into Hufflepuff.

The judges generally agreed that you seemed to be a Ravenpuff (with some side doses of Slytherin and Gryffindor), and could easily see you fitting into either house. However, after all of us had a hard time deciding, the majority chose to send you to Hufflepuff. Here is some of what the judges had to say:

-I think that she's mostly Ravenpuff at heart with definite elements of Gryffindor. She's not a Luna-esque Claw by any stretch of it, but I don't think all Claws are and I think the Hufflepuff in her makes her more grounded and more pragmatic at heart. The Gryffindor in her gives her a prominent moral compass and a desire to follow what's right, but I also think that on the whole, Iris puts more value on things like fairness, hard work, intelligence and logic and inquisitiveness.

-I’m going to have to go with Ravenclaw though in the end. I just don’t see Hufflepuff traits at the very core of her personality. She certainly has Puff responses and Puff opinions, but I really see them backed up by a very logical explanation and a logical reasoning. We need people to be empathetic because when people aren’t empathetic, we all hurt each other and self destruct (sorry for the paraphrasing). The biggest problem in the world is that we’re wrapped up in our own problems, and we don’t see the rest of the problems in the world so we screw ourselves and each other over. My rewording is lacking, but despite that, I really do think that her thought processes for why she has Hufflepuff reactions are very logically thought out and are very wide reaching in scale, moving into an almost theoretical level.

-She's incredibly grounded, practical, and hard-working. She genuinely enjoys helping others achieve their full potential, which reminds me a lot of Helga ensuring that everyone has an opportunity to learn. If she'd been around at the founding of Hogwarts, I think that's the kind of role she'd take on. She's tolerant and accepting even though she has a strong set of personal values. One of her main goals is to be just and fair. The importance she places on honesty is very Hufflepuff, as is her dystopia answer, what she'd want all children to know, and what she thinks the biggest problem in the world is. I think Hufflepuff motives underlie the majority of her choices and they're what she would compromise last. The emphasis on fairness and tolerance throughout her entire appeal is overwhelming.

-The answers that struck me as very Hufflepuff were those of the one thing I want to achieve in life is happiness. , she answered quite a few questions how she shuts herself off in a crisis and doesn't like to respond to those, sharing her money with her family, and finally the fact that she seems to relate to Cedric in many situations. The answers that shouted Ravenclaw to me were those about not forgiving about deception, not using knowledge for bad situations, doing away with grades and letting people really have the chance to learn without labels.

-When asked about morality, iris is quick not to impose her view of morality on others, instead choosing the route marked by fairness and take the neutral route. When faced with the possibility that she would have to see her family and friends slowly fall away if she picked to live forever, Iris balked and instead chose to live a natural life span. Fairness seems to be a common theme with Iris, coming up again in her decision regarding which type of society she could endure the least (the society where fairness was abandoned was her least desired society). Kindness is also a repeated theme, from her mention of the famous Plato quote to her choice to become Abnegation (the faction which exists to serve others and bring joy to others) in the Divergent universe.


You can leave the Ravenclaw common room and will be accepted into the Hufflefpuff common room. Except not really, because this is just an example appeal and you're not allowed to be a Hufflepuff. Good luck in your new house, I hope you will enjoy it!

- Sara, Term XXIII Appeals Mod

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