3b. Do you think the behavior of the Slytherins we see in the book may be entirely a product of the times and pressures they're under by their parents (because Voldemort largely recruited from his own house)? Do you think the Slytherins of Harry's kids generation are just as nasty?
Yes, I definitely agree with the idea that the Slytherins we see are a product of their times. I’ve always thought that, and acknowledged that. They are under pressure, and somewhere earlier I answered a re-sorting about Draco in which I said that he is only Slytherin, in my opinion, because of his father and his father’s alliances.
Next-gen has never really interested me. However I think that, due to the stereotype, they do have the ability to be just a nasty depending on how the canon Slytherins that raise them change their outlook or rather don’t change their outlook. Also, as I’ve said, it also depends on how the reputation of the house influences them. I don’t think that, concretely, they are nasty because I know next to nothing about them canon wise, and I have no interest in creating a personality for them myself.
4. Related to the above: Pick one or two characters from each of the other houses, like you did with Lucius and Pansy, and explain why you don't relate to them or their actions and worldview.
Wheee. Okay.
Gryffindor: Dumbeldore (you knew I was going to say him, right?)
Basically, I think he is evil. However, what I dislike most about him is his deceptive, secretive nature. He keeps important things from people, and I prefer honesty over the great good for the most part. Now, given, I don’t know how I would handle myself in his situation, however, I think he should have gotten over what he thought was right. The way he handled his Gryffindor nature (to go forward with what he believed was right no matter what), rubs me in all kind of wrong ways. I think his manipulation of Harry and Severus is disgusting, and he had no right (no matter what) to do that to people. He made them trust him, made them rely on him, and then refused to tell them things and got them to do horrible things for this so-called ‘greater good’.
James Potter
Okay, he was a bully. He took his Gryffindor boldness and general “greater good” feeling and warped it so he felt like he was some sort of Gryffindor god who could do whatever to whomever he pleased. I detest this mentality, and I think that pretty much sums that up.
Ravenclaw: Cho Chang
I hate her simpering, girly attitude, and her lack of faith. Also, her bad choices in friends. She rubbed me the wrong way because she seemed so superficial. She is someone everyone is friends with because she is pretty or semi-talented, but no one really likes because she’s about as deep as a puddle. <--- Which yes, I copied and pasted because I am lazy.
It may just be the way she was presented through Harry’s point of view, but she seemed so useless. She had no drive, no fire. She was simply there, giggling or crying with no good reason. She seemed like a drone. She had no real thoughts that meant anything. She had no real feelings that I cared about.
And, for that matter, I saw nothing presented to me that made her a true Ravenclaw.
Hufflepuff: Helga Hufflepuff
The original model. I think her “and I’ll teach the rest” philosophy is utter crap. Schools should be selective. I don’t think everyone deserved to learn magic. I mean, I don’t agree with Slytherin that it should just be pure bloods, but I think there is a definite line. What that line is, however, I couldn’t tell you for sure. (Another copy and paste. You’ll forgive me right?)
I don’t know Hufflepuffs very well. In fact, you could say that they are the one house I know virtually nothing about. In fact, I don’t know many Hufflepuffs from HiH either so I don’t even have that to go on. Therefore, this answer is just a base observation that is rather superficial in itself, unfortunately. If her character or any other Hufflepuff had more fleshing out in canon, my answer probably would change, so take this one with a grain of salt.
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Date: 2009-03-14 01:23 am (UTC)Yes, I definitely agree with the idea that the Slytherins we see are a product of their times. I’ve always thought that, and acknowledged that. They are under pressure, and somewhere earlier I answered a re-sorting about Draco in which I said that he is only Slytherin, in my opinion, because of his father and his father’s alliances.
Next-gen has never really interested me. However I think that, due to the stereotype, they do have the ability to be just a nasty depending on how the canon Slytherins that raise them change their outlook or rather don’t change their outlook. Also, as I’ve said, it also depends on how the reputation of the house influences them. I don’t think that, concretely, they are nasty because I know next to nothing about them canon wise, and I have no interest in creating a personality for them myself.
4. Related to the above: Pick one or two characters from each of the other houses, like you did with Lucius and Pansy, and explain why you don't relate to them or their actions and worldview.
Wheee. Okay.
Gryffindor: Dumbeldore (you knew I was going to say him, right?)
Basically, I think he is evil. However, what I dislike most about him is his deceptive, secretive nature. He keeps important things from people, and I prefer honesty over the great good for the most part. Now, given, I don’t know how I would handle myself in his situation, however, I think he should have gotten over what he thought was right. The way he handled his Gryffindor nature (to go forward with what he believed was right no matter what), rubs me in all kind of wrong ways. I think his manipulation of Harry and Severus is disgusting, and he had no right (no matter what) to do that to people. He made them trust him, made them rely on him, and then refused to tell them things and got them to do horrible things for this so-called ‘greater good’.
James Potter
Okay, he was a bully. He took his Gryffindor boldness and general “greater good” feeling and warped it so he felt like he was some sort of Gryffindor god who could do whatever to whomever he pleased. I detest this mentality, and I think that pretty much sums that up.
Ravenclaw: Cho Chang
I hate her simpering, girly attitude, and her lack of faith. Also, her bad choices in friends. She rubbed me the wrong way because she seemed so superficial. She is someone everyone is friends with because she is pretty or semi-talented, but no one really likes because she’s about as deep as a puddle. <--- Which yes, I copied and pasted because I am lazy.
It may just be the way she was presented through Harry’s point of view, but she seemed so useless. She had no drive, no fire. She was simply there, giggling or crying with no good reason. She seemed like a drone. She had no real thoughts that meant anything. She had no real feelings that I cared about.
And, for that matter, I saw nothing presented to me that made her a true Ravenclaw.
Hufflepuff: Helga Hufflepuff
The original model. I think her “and I’ll teach the rest” philosophy is utter crap. Schools should be selective. I don’t think everyone deserved to learn magic. I mean, I don’t agree with Slytherin that it should just be pure bloods, but I think there is a definite line. What that line is, however, I couldn’t tell you for sure. (Another copy and paste. You’ll forgive me right?)
I don’t know Hufflepuffs very well. In fact, you could say that they are the one house I know virtually nothing about. In fact, I don’t know many Hufflepuffs from HiH either so I don’t even have that to go on. Therefore, this answer is just a base observation that is rather superficial in itself, unfortunately. If her character or any other Hufflepuff had more fleshing out in canon, my answer probably would change, so take this one with a grain of salt.